[about appearing on the Ellis Park podium in Johannesburg with Nelson Mandela, 1995] I just wanted to hug him at that moment but did not think it was the thing you did with a head of state. As we stood there, he turned to me and said - with that incredible, beautiful smile of his - 'Thank you for what you have done for South Africa'. I couldn't believe he had said that to me. With some people you meet, they are just courteous. Some you meet are politicking. With Madiba it was always genuine.
